Julien Salaud

Posted: January 1st, 2014 | Author: | Filed under: interviews | Tags: , , , , | No Comments »

ConstellationduChevreuil

Constellation du chevreuil, trophée de chevreuil, clous, perles, coton, colle

Le travail de Julien Salaud rassemble tout un panthéon d’animaux représentés en utilisant différentes techniques telles que le dessin, la gravure ou la sculpture. Il est commun de penser que le thème principal de son travail est un questionnement sur la nature des liens unissant l’homme et l’animal. S’il s’agit bien d’un aspect de son travail, c’est davantage la transformation qui est au coeur de sa réflexion : transformer des dépouilles d’animaux de la forêt principalement, mais aussi des insectes, qu’il orne, qu’il pare de perles, de clous, de plumes ou de strass.
Julien Salaud vit et travaille à Orléans.
Il est représenté par la galerie Suzanne Tarasiève à Paris.

D’où vient votre intérêt pour l’utilisation d’animaux empaillés ?

Au début de l’année 2008 j’ai fabriqué deux petites sculptures avec des os, des plumes, des morceaux de bois et quelques graines ramenés de Guyane. L’une d’elle ressemblait à un perroquet empaillé lorsqu’on la regardait d’une de ses deux faces. J’étais inscrit en Master d’arts plastiques à l’université Paris 8 à l’époque, et lorsque j’ai montré ces travaux à ma directrice de recherche, elle m’a conseillé la lecture de The Postmodern Animal, livre dans lequel Steve Baker parle de taxidermie. Il y explique notamment comment les œuvres de Thomas Grunfeld, en renvoyant à la chimère antique, appellent l’imagination plutôt que la raison. Au même moment, j’ai découvert Chantal Jègues-Wolkiewiez, une ethno astronome qui a travaillé sur les peintures de la grotte de Lascaux. Elle a prouvé que les peintures zoomorphes de la Salle des Taureaux correspondaient à une carte du ciel de l’époque. Les taxidermies ont fait irruption dans mon travail à ce moment précis, et dans cette conjoncture, avec les Animaux stellaires. Ces pièces sont à la fois une mise en œuvre de l’animal étrange de Baker et une interprétation des découvertes de Jègues-Wolkiewiez. J’ajouterai que les taxidermies ont été un bon support de réflexion pour tout ce qui a pu m’intriguer au sujet de la mort.

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Vieux Piraï emplumé, piranha séché, plumes de perruches ondulées, fourmis manioc, perles de rocaille, bois, coton sauvage, feuilles de cuivre, gouache, colle

Vous avez étudié la biochimie à l’université.
Pensez-vous que cela ait pu avoir une influence sur votre travail ?

Oui, définitivement. Mes premières années d’études étaient tournées vers les sciences dures. Durant cette période je me suis acharné à essayer de développer un esprit logique… Sans le moindre succès. Plus tard, mon premier emploi aura consisté à récolter les données de programmes d’études concernant l’impact des activités humaines sur la faune sauvage guyanaise. A vrai dire, je n’étais pas captivé par ces études, par contre j’adorais passer des journées entières à pister les animaux. Au final il ne m’aura donc pas fallu moins de dix ans pour admettre que je n’étais compatible ni avec les sciences et ni avec leurs systèmes d’appréhension du monde par l’ordre et la logique. Je me suis donc plongé dans l’art – la seule constante de mon parcours chaotique – sans pour autant abandonner les problématiques qui motivaient mes actions. Celles induisant un rapport à l’environnement par exemple.

La réalisation de vos pièces demande du temps, de la méticulosité ainsi que des volontaires.
Comment travaillez-vous ?

Il y a plusieurs sortes de beautés, je suppose que la mienne fonctionne plutôt comme un fruit : elle mature avec le temps. Du coup mon travail est très chronophage. Il l’est par goût : je ne suis pas dans la logique, pas plus dans le concept. Je cherche plutôt quelque chose qui serait de l’ordre de la contemplation. La contemplation demande du temps, alors si je veux la déclencher chez les autres, il faut que je commence par donner du temps quand je tente de faire un objet de contemplation. Il y a deux ans encore, je pouvais travailler seul sur mes pièces. Certaines me prenaient plusieurs mois, comme la Constellation du cerf (harpe) II par exemple. Mais le rythme de travail a considérablement augmenté dès la fin de l’année 2011, me forçant à appeler au secours pour que les œuvres soient prêtes à temps… Depuis je travaille régulièrement avec l’aide de tierces personnes, des amis ou bien des étudiants en art qui viennent faire leurs stages chez moi. L’été dernier nous avons été jusqu’à douze personnes à travailler dans le jardin pour préparer les expositions d’octobre ! Il y a quelque chose de très énergisant dans le travail en équipe. Les œuvres peuvent prendre une ampleur qu’il serait impossible de développer seul, et puis le partage du travail n’est jamais à sens unique. Travailler deux mois et demi à vingt-quatre mains une pièce demandant patience et méticulosité comme Printemps (nymphe de cerf) m’a récemment permis d’observer les conséquences du processus de création sur d’autres personnes que moi. Pour un peu ça me donnerait envie de faire des expositions-ateliers durant lesquelles les visiteurs de l’expo se transformeraient en créateurs des pièces exposées. J’ai l’impression que la meilleure façon d’entrer dans une œuvre, c’est de participer à sa réalisation.

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Précieuse Goliath, goliathus goliathus albatus femelle, strass, colle, épingles

Vous travaillez avec une variété de médiums différents : le dessin, la peinture et bien sûr la sculpture.
Cela vous permet-il d’exprimer la même chose de manière différente ?
Est-ce important pour vous d’avoir recours à ces techniques différentes ?

Changer de média, c’est un peu comme prendre l’air ou partir en vacances. Ça permet de garder un bon équilibre de vie. Je crois que je m’ennuierai vite si je ne devais faire que du dessin, ou que de la sculpture. Ces deux médiums fonctionnent de concert chez moi : les dessins que je fais dans des carnets vont passer en sculptures, les sculptures vont être prétextes à des petites histoires en dessins, et puis, quand je ne peux pas transformer un dessin en sculpture ou inversement parce que ça ne correspondrait pas, alors je fais des photos. Donc oui, en effet, le changement de média peut permettre d’exprimer plusieurs formes d’une même chose. Mais il existe une deuxième possibilité : le changement de média peut entrainer une métamorphose de la pratique artistique. Dans ce cas, l’avant et l’après ne sont semblables ni dans la forme, ni sur le fond. Et pourtant, l’un et l’autre sont en continuité.
Pour l’instant, je n’ai vécu cette transformation qu’une seule fois. Mais je continue à pratiquer différents médias en espérant qu’un jour une prochaine métamorphose se réalise.

02Poisson à plumes I, gravure (étapes I, II et III)

http://julien-salaud.info/

In Julien Salaud’s work there is a whole pantheon filled with animals depicted in different ways, such as drawing, etching and sculpture. It is generally accepted that his work examines the connections between man and animal. That is indeed one side of his work, but transformation is really the core of it: wood animals skins or insects turning into something else with additional beads, nails, feathers or rhinestone.
Julien Salaud lives and works in Orléans.
He is represented by Suzanne Tarasiève art gallery in Paris.

Where does your interest in working with stuffed animals come from?

In early 2008 I did two tiny sculptures made of bones, feathers, wood pieces and some seeds that I brought back from French Guyana. One of them looked like a stuffed parrot from a specific angle. I was then studying Arts at Paris 8 University and when my professor saw it, she recommended the reading of Steve Baker’s The Postmodern Animal, which is about taxidermy. Baker states that the works of Thomas Grunfeld, by referring to ancient chimera, carries imagination rather than reason. Meanwhile I discovered the work of Chantal Jègues-Wolkiewiez, an ethno astronomer who previously studied Lascaux cave paintings. She demonstrated that the zoomorphic paintings from The Hall of the Bulls correspond with the sky map at the time. Taxidermy occurred in my work at the same time with the piece les Animaux stellaires. These are both some application of Baker’s book and Jègues-Wolkiewiez investigations. And taxidermy was also a good way to think about death and the way I’m intrigued by the concept of it.

Do you think studying biochemistry at the University influenced your choices as an artist?

Definitely. The first years I studied hard science and I unsuccessfully attempted to develop logical thinking for myself… Later on my first job consisted of gathering data regarding the impact of human activity on the wildlife in French Guyana. I was not really passionate about it to be honest, but I really enjoyed spending entire days tracking the animals. In the end it took me ten years to admit that I was neither compatible with science, nor with its way of studying the world through order and logic. I then focused on Arts – the one and only continual thing in my chaotic process – without actually giving up the things that interest me for my work. I’m thinking about the ones dealing with environment or nature for example.

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Constellation sans perle (daim), détail

You make pieces that require time, meticulousness and people to help in the process.
How do you usually work?

There are different kinds of beauty. I suppose the one I am interested in is like a fruit: I am not following a logical analysis, and I am not trying to have some concept. I am rather into contemplation, which implies taking some time. So if I want the audience to be aroused by contemplation, I have to take some time to be able to create an object that will provoke the same effect. Until two years ago I was still able to work on my own. It may take several months to finish a piece, like the Constellation du cerf (harpe) II. Since the end of the year 2011 the rhythm has increased, and I was no longer in the position to work on my own, I had to call for assistance to make sure the work would be ready on time… And I have been working with various people, friends or art students since then. Last summer we were like twelve people working in my garden to prepare exhibitions scheduled in October! Working among a team is somehow very inspiring. Works can exist in a way that you would never achieve on your own. In addition to that, working with different people is never a one-way thing. Twenty four hands worked with a lot of patience and precision on the piece entitled Printemps (nymphe de cerf) during two months and a half. I then witnessed the consequences of the creating process on other individuals than myself. It almost convinces me to do workshops-exhibitions where the visitors could also be involved in the making.
In a way I do think that the best way to understand a work of art is to participate in the creative process.

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Constellation sans perle (daim), trophée de daim, clous, colle

You are also working with various media, such as drawing, painting, and sculpture of course.
Does it allow you to express the same things in different ways?
Is it important for you to work with all these media?

Working with various media feels like getting some air or taking holidays. It balances the whole thing you know. I think I would get bored if I was only into drawing or sculpture.
In my case these two media work well together: some drawings from my notebook will transform into sculptures and sculptures will become sketches sometimes. When I cannot make a drawing evolving into a sculpture or the opposite – because it would not match – I take pictures. So changing media is definitely a way of expressing several aspects of a same thing. But there is another possibility too: different media could also alter the artistic process. In that case what comes before and what comes after is totally different, visually speaking and regarding its contents. They are aligned with each other though.
I have experienced it once at the moment. But I keep on working with different media hoping that some metamorphosis would happen someday.

http://julien-salaud.info/

 


Andrew Zuckerman

Posted: September 10th, 2009 | Author: | Filed under: no blah blah: one artist | Tags: , , , | No Comments »

I am interested in singular themes that have universal interest, mainly relating to the human experience
Andrew Zuckerman

about directing
‘I started making pictures as a teenager in Washington DC shooting bands, which gave me access to situations that 14 years old don’t always have. I came to New York for the summers and lived with my sister while working at the International Center of Photography cleaning the darkrooms in exchange for printing time- all the while shooting music people in NYC. At 18 I enrolled at SVA and made short films, sculptures and pictures. I took a break from film after art school and opened a studio focusing completely on photography. I did lots of magazine work and ads.’

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about Vogue
My first job was working for Vogue. I would shoot still lifes of bags and shoes. The Vogue art directors were really specific. We had to have a perfectly white background and it had to be beautifully done. I worked out of an old pre-war apartment on 46th Street. A fantastic photographer I assisted gave me a set of lights to start with. They were really old Speedotron piggyback systems. I didn’t have enough power in my apartment so I had to run cords out of the windows into my neighbors’ apartments and pay their electric bills. I had a totally jerry rigged system. Thank god no one from Vogue ever actually came to my studio! I was shooting like 8 products a day for Vogue and other magazines. I basically spent a year doing still lifes, which I had never intended on doing. It taught me how to light and be efficient and work on my own. I never worked with an assistant. It was just me alone in my apartment‘.

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about Puma – the Fairy Godcompany
Puma allowed me to experiment with film after I did a successful print campaign for them. I made some spec spots to show them that what we were doing could work well on TV. They liked them and commissioned three. Now two years later we have made 27 spots together‘.

about commercials
The challenge of telling a story in such a short period of time sharpens one’s visual and narrative convictions. The commercial world is filled with immense talent and resources that are all looking to create something entirely new. Rigor is an ethic that making commercials requires and I like that‘.

about the Wisdom project shooting

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By democratizing the space – shooting all on white – I was able to put all the subjects on a neutral field for the portraits – which served to strip away issues that come with environment and created a cohesive humanistic thread throughout. The white essentially transported them all to the same room. There was no variance in the setup or the equipment – aside from the Mandela shoot which we used kinos for due to an issue he has with excessive light. The shoot consisted of a two camera HD video setup as well as the still shoot so we developed a transformable set from still to motion. In the book I actually included a grid of the equipment used to illustrate the gift technology has provided us in modern times. 20 years ago it would have been nearly impossible to create this project with the same quality and efficiency‘.

about the expansion series

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The featured image is an egg being pierced. It is part of a larger body of work exploring the Big Bang theory. Zuckerman used a piece of equipment often used in high-speed photography called The Time Machine to create an interface between his camera, strobe and a microphone mounted to the top of his pellet gun. The reason for the low power setting was to get the highest flash duration, in this case around 1/6000th of a second, in order to properly freeze the motion of the balloon bursting. He used a Hasselblad H2 with a Leaf Aptus 75S digital back and a 120mm lens. Once everything was in place he would pull the trigger of the gun and The Time Machine, hooked up to a microphone mounted on the gun and a pocket wizard connected to the camera and the single strobe, would then do all the work. The sound of the gun is actually what takes the image. The gun was 5 feet away from the balloon and the pellet was travelling at a 1000ft/sec so it was mostly just math and “a lot of trial and error“.

website:
http://www.andrewzuckerman.com/

twitter:
http://twitter.com/zuckermanstudio

books:
Andrew Zuckerman, Creature, Chronicle Books, 2007
a portrait series of animals

Andrew Zuckerman, Wisdom, Abrams; Har/DVD edition, 2008
an account of the portraits and thoughts of famous elders: Vanessa Redgrave, Clint Eastwood, Nelson Mandela…

Andrew Zuckerman, Birds, Chronicle Books, 2009
a visual study of birds from the rarest to the most common